Comments on: PageRank - The Holy Grail of the Lazy http://deanhunt.com/pagerank-the-holy-grail-of-the-lazy/ Because everyone is entitled to my opinion Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:27:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Hamoudi Assaf http://deanhunt.com/pagerank-the-holy-grail-of-the-lazy/#comment-48289 Hamoudi Assaf Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:38:41 +0000 http://deanhunt.com/pagerank-the-holy-grail-of-the-lazy/#comment-48289 I totally agree...as a guy who has good contact in the internet underground, i can say that Pagerank is nothing to be worry about. However trustrank is what counts...Trustrank isnt an official google word...and it has no indicators like the PR area in the google toolbar. I have a huge casino project with a very smart programmer in Russia who knows so well how the Trustrank works , and he got us to rank for a huge casino keyword targetted to the middle east ( our casino is targetted to Arab Princes ) , and we're making over $ 200 K / month just from doing correct SEO based on Trustrank and not Pagerank. So its all about the trustrank ;) , and the benjamins of course lol.. I totally agree…as a guy who has good contact in the internet underground, i can say that Pagerank is nothing to be worry about. However trustrank is what counts…Trustrank isnt an official google word…and it has no indicators like the PR area in the google toolbar.

I have a huge casino project with a very smart programmer in Russia who knows so well how the Trustrank works , and he got us to rank for a huge casino keyword targetted to the middle east ( our casino is targetted to Arab Princes ) , and we’re making over $ 200 K / month just from doing correct SEO based on Trustrank and not Pagerank.

So its all about the trustrank ;) , and the benjamins of course lol..

]]> By: perp http://deanhunt.com/pagerank-the-holy-grail-of-the-lazy/#comment-47504 perp Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:01:46 +0000 http://deanhunt.com/pagerank-the-holy-grail-of-the-lazy/#comment-47504 Totally agree, it lost it's real clout years ago, although I continue to be surprised by the amount of companies (read those that understand not a great deal!!!) that still value it!!! Totally agree, it lost it’s real clout years ago, although I continue to be surprised by the amount of companies (read those that understand not a great deal!!!) that still value it!!!

]]> By: Dean Hunt http://deanhunt.com/pagerank-the-holy-grail-of-the-lazy/#comment-47439 Dean Hunt Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:15:43 +0000 http://deanhunt.com/pagerank-the-holy-grail-of-the-lazy/#comment-47439 Ben, Yes, that is a problem, but i don't think it will be an issue for long! At the moment it is the blogging community and SEO types that are fully aware of what is going on. In 3 months it is likely to be common knowledge, especially if Google starts de-listing sites. So hold on in there. Ben,

Yes, that is a problem, but i don’t think it will be an issue for long!

At the moment it is the blogging community and SEO types that are fully aware of what is going on. In 3 months it is likely to be common knowledge, especially if Google starts de-listing sites.

So hold on in there.

]]> By: Ben http://deanhunt.com/pagerank-the-holy-grail-of-the-lazy/#comment-47438 Ben Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:11:58 +0000 http://deanhunt.com/pagerank-the-holy-grail-of-the-lazy/#comment-47438 Another problem is that many advertisers potentially fall into the idiot category. They might see a site with a PR of 4 and decide it isn't worth advertising on, despite the fact that it may have a key, niche audience of many thousands. In two weeks google took my PR from 5, down to 3, and has now left it at 4. I suspect this is due to some TLA's I had there for a while (now gone for good). I am in the 'no longer care' camp, though it bother's me slightly that advertisers who previously were attracted by my PR5 might now not bother considering throwing ad dollars at my site. If only they would all read this post of yours, that might not be an issue! Another problem is that many advertisers potentially fall into the idiot category. They might see a site with a PR of 4 and decide it isn’t worth advertising on, despite the fact that it may have a key, niche audience of many thousands.

In two weeks google took my PR from 5, down to 3, and has now left it at 4. I suspect this is due to some TLA’s I had there for a while (now gone for good). I am in the ‘no longer care’ camp, though it bother’s me slightly that advertisers who previously were attracted by my PR5 might now not bother considering throwing ad dollars at my site.

If only they would all read this post of yours, that might not be an issue!

]]> By: David Bowley http://deanhunt.com/pagerank-the-holy-grail-of-the-lazy/#comment-47107 David Bowley Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:47:48 +0000 http://deanhunt.com/pagerank-the-holy-grail-of-the-lazy/#comment-47107 One of the best posts I've seen on page rank for a while. There's been the "we're screwed" posts and then "don't care" posts but this is probably one of a few that actually makes sense of the whole issue. My thoughts on this though are that a page rank like system is still the only viable way of mass automating the ranking of a site - whether people like TLA do or even need to do this I have no idea. But say if some teenage geeks get together and make a "page rank rival" so to speak that was more acurate - even that would eventually be subject to corruption by a large corporation in the same way page rank is. The creation would get sold on to the highest bidder and we would all be in the same situation again. But dealing with the present situation - what can be done to change the minds of the masses of people who swear by page rank? No matter how studious we can be as people who know the truth and research a site's ranking ourselves, there will always be people out there unwilling to trade anything with us due to our ranking given to us by Google. One of the best posts I’ve seen on page rank for a while. There’s been the “we’re screwed” posts and then “don’t care” posts but this is probably one of a few that actually makes sense of the whole issue.

My thoughts on this though are that a page rank like system is still the only viable way of mass automating the ranking of a site - whether people like TLA do or even need to do this I have no idea.

But say if some teenage geeks get together and make a “page rank rival” so to speak that was more acurate - even that would eventually be subject to corruption by a large corporation in the same way page rank is. The creation would get sold on to the highest bidder and we would all be in the same situation again.

But dealing with the present situation - what can be done to change the minds of the masses of people who swear by page rank? No matter how studious we can be as people who know the truth and research a site’s ranking ourselves, there will always be people out there unwilling to trade anything with us due to our ranking given to us by Google.

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